Weebly vs Wordpress

Moving beyond using WordPress for everything: what was it like using Weebly?

If you are on the ALT mailing list, you may remember my name and this particular subject. In the summer of 2015 I emailed the list to see everyone’s thoughts on moving away from WordPress as the platform of choice for a student assessment. In particular, I wanted to use a system called Weebly and wondered if others had experience using it in an educational context.

No one that responded had used Weebly in an educational context. However, lots of people had a lot of good things to say about WordPress. It is safe to say there are LOADS of WordPress enthusiasts out there and it became clear that there was no groundswell of knowledge or interest in an alternative.

My web developing acquaintances on the other hand had nothing but good things to say about Weebly so I was still interested in using it. Much against my innate resistance to rocking the boat I decided to take a punt and wanted to feed back to the community that it worked out well.

Moving away from WordPress…

Before I go into detail about what worked well in the Weebly system let me outline my rationale for wanting to move away from WordPress.

  1. The number of queries caused by the confusion between ‘posts’ and ‘pages’ really hampered training and caused much stress amongst the student body.
  2. The learning curve during training was too steep. To get to the creative element took too long and the resource needed was onerous.
  3. The system didn’t allow for much in the way of visual creativity in authoring relying as it did on themes and page templates through a dashboard. This meant to make something that looked nice or even different you needed to be quite adept.
  4. Student feedback contained a few comments each cohort strongly advising that there were easier ways to do what we asking people to do using the systems of their preference. You know what? They were right.

In the year 2015/16, I had a new distance learning cohort in addition to the face-to-face group, with the same assessment. It was imperative that I improved points 1 and 2, and if I could hit 3 and 4 then all the better! I then took off, folded and stowed my “I love WordPress” t-shirt and unsubscribed from the “WordPress is the future of everything” podcast and despite there being no existing body of practice I went ahead with the Weebly platform.*

Moving onto Weebly…

Now on to the Weebly system itself. What drew me to it? Although there was a paid for education option there were no real reasons to use anything other than the free to use platform, so it remained cost effective. There were two additional improvements over WordPress:

  • Drag-and-drop authoring
    Rather than a text-based dashboard, everything is done whilst seeing how the changes affect your site instantly. To add blocks you simply drag and drop them from the side bar. To add pages, you open the pages menu and alter your site structure without ever moving away from your site preview. This made authoring intuitive and a more creative activity.
  • Simplicity
    This leads into the second point: it was just simple. Nothing complicated or laden with the need for abstract or technical thinking. It just worked as you would expect it to work.

Weebly in Practice

So what happened when we adopted it? At the first training session at the beginning of the module, the system was introduced in 10 minutes followed by a printed walkthrough guide. Such was the simplicity I felt people were genuinely spending time doing the task in a fun and creative way rather than working out how the system worked. I genuinely felt embarrassed to have invited a colleague to help to ensure our facilitation ratio was ok!

The second session was poorly attended. After this we had a total of two support emails about the system. Two emails for a module of 70 students. Two emails. These queries didn’t pertain to how to use the system at all. They were students trying to push beyond what we had done in class and add more complex elements to their site. That isn’t to say there weren’t lessons to be learnt or things we can improve upon but no one had any real stress about picking the system up. No one wasted time in training waiting for someone to help them.

So I think I would definitely say on points 1 and 2 of the issues I had with WordPress we found an improvement in Weebly, with fewer queries and more streamlined training. This helped us to support a dramatic upscale in numbers whilst downscaling the technical support needed. The feedback on the face-to-face course contained no mention to the system itself, which is also an improvement on point 4.

The third point regarding creativity I don’t feel I can comment on at this stage. The distance learning version of the module is running currently, so once this is done I will sit down with the module leaders and evaluate whether we enabled a more creative approach to the assessment. I hope we did, but we also need to be mindful that we are supporting independent of the platform we choose.

Isn’t this a little self-satisfied?

I’m not looking for an award or a pat on the back. I wanted to write this piece to let everyone know that it worked out. Further to this I would like to encourage any early career learning technologists to stick to their guns and not be afraid to go outside the sector orthodoxy. This wasn’t exactly an earth shattering gestalt switch but I could have easily been a little timid and not taken the risk. We all have to have faith that there are rewards out there if you are willing to expand your toolkit BUT you have to back yourself to get them.

* Obviously this was done in consultation with the module leads, director for TEL and with weeks of personal hand wringing etc but I liked the above symbolism better (which this has now ruined).

 

Tom Buckley is Senior Learning Technologist (Team Leader) in the Faculty of Health and Applied Sciences, University of the West of England.
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3 Comments

  • alt_mhawksey says:

    Hi Tom,

    So I should probably disclose a longtime interest in WordPress, to the point that I’ve even published plugins for self-hosted blogs. It’s nice to see an alternative being promoted and I completely get that the curve on WordPress is steep. My thought is why does it have to be Weebly versus WordPress. What about Medium, tumblr or even just Google Docs. I’d imagine the answer is wrapped in the context to which students are being introduced to blogging. Did students have a choice to use the tool they preferred but you only committed to support Weebly users?

    Thanks
    Martin

  • Tom Buckley says:

    Hi Martin,

    It’s a good question. As a Faculty Learning Technologist I would have been reticent to directly support the use of either if I was looking for a blogging tool. The Faculty and University have invested heavily in Blackboard and PebblePad which enable that kind of activity in a supported manner. Any desire to use external systems for reflective blogs would tend to be up to the module team to support.

    For this project there was an aspiration to raise confidence and competence in making an ‘online resource’. So that students could make informed decisions on health promotion campaigns or commissioning in the future. So we needed a CMS to create a site rather than a tool for periodic blogging. I was actually very keen on making the assessment artefact a non prescriptive ‘digital artefact’ rather than website but the module team wanted something a little more structured.

    So we started with WordPress as outlined above and moved to Weebly. Students are allowed to use other systems, I believe, but none have done so as yet. We offer training events on Weebly and students seem to enjoy creating a community of practice on the Weebly system so it makes alternatives less attractive.

    It has made that project easier but we are always trying to listen to student feedback and could change to an alternative in the future. The distance learning cohort this summer coped well, making the site and embedding a video of themselves through an embed code with minimal help from me.

    Tom

  • Alex Furr says:

    Hi,

    Interesting post, again for full disclosure I’m a WP fan. We use it a lot for student blogging and increasingly for delivering module content.

    Would be really useful to see some screenshots of the weebly content (having never actually used it myself).

    I agree, out the box WP can have a steep learning curve, but (particulary if we are doing assessed blogs) we typically give a 30 minute hands on with the students beforehand. Primarily they seem to like the ease of embedding videos (simply paste the URL) and uploading, editing, embedding media and audio. We also make heavy use of the fantastic H5P (https://en-gb.wordpress.org/plugins/h5p/) plugin and if you’ve never seen the ‘Page Builder’ plugin, its also probably worth checking out.
    https://wordpress.org/plugins/siteorigin-panels/

    Keep us informed of any other feedback you get!
    best wishes,

    Alex

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